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	<title>The Blog of Dave5 &#187; Ponoko</title>
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		<title>Will Products Ever Roam the Web Like MP3s - v 1.1</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/11/03/will-products-ever-roam-the-web-like-mp3s-v-11</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Dave Likes Gadgets]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Ponoko]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Bass Drum &#038; Snare [Roots Remix] (Featuring Patrice) -  Lightning Head
Previously I specified a structure like:

Product Name/
	bin/
	bom/
	src/
	tmp/
	usr/
		assembly/
		make/
		use/

After a sleepless night I realised that it should be:

Product Name/
	bin/
		software/
		fabrication/
	bom/
	src/
		software/
		design_files/
	tmp/
	usr/
		assembly/
		make/
		use/

Product Name/bin/softwareAn optional compilation of embedded device code.
Product Name/bin/fabricationAn optional translation of the design files into CNC code such as G-Code or SBP code. Some CNC [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Bass Drum &#038; Snare [Roots Remix] (Featuring Patrice) -  Lightning Head</p>
<p><a href="http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/23/will-products-ever-roam-the-web-like-mp3s">Previously</a> I specified a structure like:</p>
<pre>
Product Name/
	bin/
	bom/
	src/
	tmp/
	usr/
		assembly/
		make/
		use/
</pre>
<p>After a sleepless night I realised that it should be:</p>
<pre>
Product Name/
	bin/
		software/
		fabrication/
	bom/
	src/
		software/
		design_files/
	tmp/
	usr/
		assembly/
		make/
		use/
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<p><i>Product Name/bin/software</i><br/>An optional compilation of embedded device code.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/bin/fabrication</i><br/>An optional translation of the design files into CNC code such as G-Code or SBP code. Some CNC type code is more efficient than others - so there is value in being able to distribute &lsquo;binary&rsquo; versions of the cutting or disposition instructions.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/src/software</i><br/>Source code for embedded devices.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/src/design_files</i><br/>The design files for the product.</p>
<p>This is to account for products that have a software component. Imagine you were specifying an <a href="http://www.arduino.cc/">Arduino</a> powered device such as this &#8216;<a href="http://hackaday.com/2008/10/28/arduino-gameboy-killer/">game boy</a>&#8216;.</p>
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		<title>Creating Design Superstars</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/09/11/creating-design-superstars</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Design/Art]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: The Secret Marriage - Sting
We&#8217;ve started to see something really exciting with Ponoko&#8230; regular traffic blips driven by products that capture people&#8217;s imaginations. Over the past 3 weeks the following products have gained a delightful level of traction:

The iPhone document scanner by kyleakoch
Type coasters by Alan Chao
Stilletto laptop stand by our very own [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> The Secret Marriage - Sting</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve started to see something really exciting with Ponoko&#8230; regular traffic blips driven by products that capture people&#8217;s imaginations. Over the past 3 weeks the following products have gained a delightful level of traction:</p>
<ul>
<li>The <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/kyleakoch/iphone-document-scanner-1835">iPhone document scanner</a> by <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/kyleakoch/profile">kyleakoch</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/acd/type-coasters-1745">Type coasters</a> by <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/acd/profile">Alan Chao</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/john/stiletto-laptop-stand-1739">Stilletto laptop stand</a> by our very own <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/john/profile">John Lewis</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/Hammer/one-swallow-doesn-t-make-a-summer-1754">One swallow doesn&#8217;t make a summer</a> by <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/Hammer/profile">Hammer</a></li>
</ul>
<p>It&#8217;s super exciting to see the larger &#8216;machine&#8217; working the way we predicted.</p>
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		<title>Will Products Ever Roam the Web Like MP3s?</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/23/will-products-ever-roam-the-web-like-mp3s</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Breakthru - Queen
A question I have been asking myself over the weekend is whether or not you&#8217;d ever see products shared across the web in the same way as MP3s. If so, what sort of file format would you need? I have come to the conclusion (and it might because I have typed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Breakthru - Queen</p>
<p>A question I have been asking myself over the weekend is whether or not you&#8217;d ever see products shared across the web in the same way as MP3s. If so, what sort of file format would you need? I have come to the conclusion (and it might because I have typed &#8216;make&#8217;, &#8216;make install&#8217; once to many times) that a product file will probably look a lot like a software application - rather than being a single file it will be a directory structure that contains a package of things that you would need. A product needs a bunch of info. For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>Design files</li>
<li>Bill of Materials (<i>x N</i>)</li>
<li>Assembly docs</li>
<li>Instruction manuals</li>
</ul>
<p>So for any sensible product description you&#8217;re looking at a range of files - it doesn&#8217;t make too much sense to try and jam that into one file.</p>
<p>So as a first cut I think a product package might be a tar.gz file containing:</p>
<pre>
Product Name/
	bin/
	bom/
	src/
	tmp/
	usr/
		assembly/
		make/
		use/
</pre>
<p><i>Product Name/bin</i><br/>An optional translation of the design files into CNC code such as G-Code or SBP code. Some CNC type code is more efficient than others - so there is value in being able to distribute &#8216;binary&#8217; versions of the cutting or disposition instructions.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/bom</i><br/>A set of structures (like yaml or xml) that list the materials required for the product. This would include both the materials from which the product was cut or deposited and other items like electronics.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/src</i><br/>The design files for the product.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/tmp</i><br/>A temp directory that is used by parsing software - included to keep things tidy. The contents aren&#8217;t guaranteed to exist over time.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/usr/assembly</i><br/>Assembly instructions for the product.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/usr/make</i><br/>Other manufacturing instructions for the product.</p>
<p><i>Product Name/usr/use</i><br/>Usage instructions for the product.</p>
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		<title>Design Files - The HiFi/LoFi Problem</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/23/design-files-the-hifilofi-problem</link>
		<comments>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/23/design-files-the-hifilofi-problem#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Innuendo - Queen
The next few posts are me just getting ideas out in the open before I forget them. I promise they won&#8217;t be as crazy as my lawn mowing tales, but you&#8217;ll need to grin a bear things for a little while.
Design files really tire me. They consume a vast amount of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Innuendo - Queen</p>
<p><i>The next few posts are me just getting ideas out in the open before I forget them. I promise they won&#8217;t be as crazy as my lawn mowing tales, but you&#8217;ll need to grin a bear things for a little while.</i></p>
<p>Design files really tire me. They consume a vast amount of my time. But like some sort high-maintenance relationship I stick with them because the reward is great. The big issues are around interrogation. Technically - the vast majority of my job is looking at a file and asking two seemingly simple questions:</p>
<p>
<ol>
<li>How long are the lines?</li>
<li>What and where are the areas?</li>
</ol>
<p>The amount of effort you need to go to to get that information is mind boggling - but pretty valuable once you have it. Once you&#8217;ve asked and answered those questions you are able to start asking and answering some interesting business questions.</p>
<p>Having spent two years doing this I have come to the conclusion that this situation suffers from a HIFI/LOFI problem. A good design file needs to be a <b>HI</b>gh <b>FI</b>delity store of information and it needs to handle some pretty hard-core issues - like lines tangent to a circle:</p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/flash5/2790560143/" title="20080824.tangent.png by flash5, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2790560143_86189af71f_o.png" width="288" height="230" alt="20080824.tangent.png" /></a></center></p>
<p>Looks simple, but it ain&#8217;t and it&#8217;s important. That sort of stuff that guarantees the hand-gasms you get when using an iPod. So this is a necessary evil of the space - the file formats need to be hardcore (created by monkeys smarter than me)&#8230; but that hardcore nature really gets in the way of creating vital and valuable business systems. That&#8217;s why Sequoia and SAP are sinking cash into Right Hemisphere - there is gold in them thar&#8217; files. But the thing is business systems really only need a <b>LO</b>w <b>FI</b>delity version of the data. As I see it the fidelity requirements of a design file look like this: </p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/flash5/2790552965/" title="20080824.hifi-lofi.png by flash5, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2790552965_77bc343e30_o.png" width="424" height="111" alt="20080824.hifi-lofi.png" /></a></center></p>
<p>The above process is a gross simplification of the product design-manufacturing lifecycle. A product gets designed, business stuff happens and the product gets made.  Pragmatically the hifi requirements (in fetching blue) are at the ends of the process - when you&#8217;re creating the design and when the final product gets made. The other stuff you can get away with having a lofi version of the data.</p>
<p>&#8220;So what! Stop you&#8217;re whinging,&#8221; I hear you say. Fair cop. The &#8217;so what&#8217; lies in the potential of &#8220;what next&#8221;. Creating a solution to this LOFI/HIFI dichotomy has a real potential to unlock some really interesting innovation in the manufacturing and product spaces. </p>
<p>You can try and tackle the problem by saying &#8216;one file format only&#8217; but culturally, that doesn&#8217;t fly too well and you then need to get onto the treadmill of file format support, which given the plethora of closed file formats is very very painful. It would be really powerful if there was a way of recognizing the separate requirements&#8230; </p>
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		<title>Transient Cool - a Pendant/Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/05/transient-cool-a-pendantfan</link>
		<comments>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/05/transient-cool-a-pendantfan#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Flickr</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Yes - Coldplay
Another sublime piece of work by nervous:
photos in the yard for the Ponoko competition Originally uploaded by jrosenk.
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<p>Another sublime piece of work by <a href="http://www.ponoko.com/showroom/nervous/">nervous</a>:</p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrosenk/2715804686/" title="photo sharing"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2715804686_39f10888dd_m.jpg" alt="" /></a><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jrosenk/2715804686/">photos in the yard for the Ponoko competition</a> <br />Originally uploaded by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/jrosenk/">jrosenk</a>.</center></p>
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		<title>NotAClock by Kevin Byrd</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/08/04/notaclock-by-kevin-byrd</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Why Can&#8217;t I Be You? - The Cure
Another piece of design awesomeness by a Ponoko user - NotAClock by Kevin Byrd.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Why Can&#8217;t I Be You? - The Cure</p>
<p>Another piece of design awesomeness by a Ponoko user - <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/byrdhouse/sets/72157606454970626/show/">NotAClock</a> by <a href="http://byrdhouse.typepad.com/">Kevin Byrd</a>.</p>
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		<title>A Passionate User</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/07/31/a-passionate-user</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: The missus phaffing about
Doing something right  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> The missus phaffing about</p>
<p>Doing <i>something</i> right <img src='http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><center><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/21W89QFnp7w&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/21W89QFnp7w&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></center></p>
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		<title>Two Little Ponoko Goals Achieved</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/07/19/two-little-ponoko-goals-achieved</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Strawberry Swing - Coldplay
When I started Ponoko there were a list of specific people I wanted to end up using Ponoko. Stephen Templer was one of those people. I really love his art work. On Friday his latest automata was installed at Deluxe Cafe&#8230; some of the pieces were made using Ponoko. Stoked!
The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Strawberry Swing - Coldplay</p>
<p>When I started Ponoko there were a list of specific people I wanted to end up using Ponoko. <a href="http://www.stephentempler.co.nz/index.html">Stephen Templer</a> was one of those people. I really love his art work. On Friday his latest automata was installed at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tantek/2517968866/">Deluxe Cafe</a>&#8230; some of the pieces were made using Ponoko. Stoked!</p>
<p>The second goal was that Ponoko was to be something that parents and children could use to learn&#8230; Whispering Inferno posted a <a href="http://whisperinginferno.blogspot.com/2008/07/ponoko-rocks.html">small review</a> - the key lines being:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>We got out the beads tonight, some leather twine and hey presto, personalised jewellery.  Can&#8217;t wait to try out some more complex stuff now we&#8217;ve mastered the basics.  One more thing that technology lets me and my daughters learn together; nothing beats turning a paper design into a real world item!</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Clear Acrylic Clock</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/07/17/clear-acrylic-clock</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidtenhave</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Alive And Kicking - Simple Minds
From the &#8220;you have no idea how it will get used&#8221; files:






This is a pendulum clock made of clear acrylic and nested brass tubes. The design of the gear train, escapement mechanism, and housing is original. As such, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not as refined as it c&#8230;
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<p>From the &#8220;you have no idea how it will get used&#8221; files:</p>
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		<title>Moses Rocker by Nathan Ieland</title>
		<link>http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/2008/07/10/moses-rocker-by-nathan-ieland</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to: Free Chilly (feat. Sarah Green &#038; GemStones) [Interlude] - Lupe Fiasco
Check out this recent piece of art produced using Ponoko:
engraving detailOriginally uploaded by nathan_leland.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Listening to:</b> Free Chilly (feat. Sarah Green &#038; GemStones) [Interlude] - Lupe Fiasco</p>
<p>Check out this recent <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathanleland/sets/72157605720220978/">piece of art</a> produced using Ponoko:</p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathanleland/2596474234/" title="photo sharing"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2596474234_3017266d44_m.jpg" alt="" /></a><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathanleland/2596474234/">engraving detail</a><br />Originally uploaded by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/nathanleland/">nathan_leland</a>.</center></p>
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